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 08-23-2004, 19:19 Post: 94231
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Car and Driver recently compared a Civic hybrid, Toyota Echo and Prius with a Jetta TDI. Here are some general specs from the mag.

Honda civic hybrid:
Gas engine 85 hp 87 ft lbs
electric motor 13 hp 36 ft lbs
continuously variable trans
0-60 11.7
43 mpg high way
53 mpg city observed
EPA estimates
47 highway
48 city

Toyota Echo:
Gas engine 108 hp 105 ft lbs
0-60 9.8
41 mpg highway
42 mpg city
EPA estimates
39 mpg highway
33 mpg city

Toyota Prius
Gas engine 76 hp 82 ft lbs
electric motor 67 hp 295 ft lbs
0-60 10.1
50 mpg highway
52 mpg city observed
EPA estimates
51 mpg highway
60 mpg city

Volkswagen Jetta GLS TDI
Turbo Diesel Engine 100 hp 177 ft lbs
0-60 11.2
42 mpg highway
33 mpg city observed
EPA estimates
44 mpg highway
33 mpg city






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 08-25-2004, 14:58 Post: 94473
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That is true the old GM diesels were out and out junk!! I have even tried to modify them with no prevail, added a turbo and other mods still JUNK.
But the new diesels out to day are excellent (though still not sure about the GM line) the Ford and Dodge as well as VW, and Mercedes are really great engines.






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yes diesel kerosene and fuel oil are made from "waste" after gasoline is made. The process cost a little more which is why diesel costs more. Say you take one gallon of crude and refine it you will end up with about 1/2 gallon of gas. Then with the additives you still end up with about 2/3 gallon of waste which is then turned in to whatever. In the oil industry nothing is wasted.






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That is what I was trying to say but again I put wrong terms in that completely destroyed my thoughts.

Thanks for the info chief.






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I am semi dyslexic and usually I have 1000 thoughts running at the same time and it is hard to concentrate on one at a time. I do not know what is wrong with me I have never been to see a doctor but I probably should. I may have adult ADD but I tend to think that is a made up illness?

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